Q I'm seeing an incredibly deadly week of American soldiers -- of military dead.That is a sick and twisted argument, don't you think? Anything that is contrary to the W, Rove and Co position on the war in Iraq is aiding and abetting Al Qaeda? My goodness, they've had their heads steeped for so long in the stinking pile of shit that comprises the Iraqi quagmire, they see every one that disagrees with them as enemies of the state.
MR. SNOW: What you're saying is --
Q My point is this -- my point is if you are seeing these things happen, for instance, over the course of this weekend, and the administration, every time they're asked about it, says, it's going to take a couple of months, don't make any judgments -- I'm just asking, at what point is it fair to make a judgment?
MR. SNOW: Well, Jim, but --
Q You're saying September is not --
MR. SNOW: Notice what you did. You referred to body counts. What you've said is, anytime al Qaeda can blow up a truck, they win. And the President --
Q But, Tony, notice what you did. You never have to answer the question as to what's significant --
But of course, there is more:.
..And in fact, the data are out there, but if all we're going to talk about is EFPs, then you're allowing bin Laden to govern the terms of this debate, as opposed to --Well, that's what we were doing. It's been a bloody mess, so do they KIA troops count?
Q Where is he?
MR. SNOW: -- wish I knew -- as opposed to taking a fuller look at what U.S. forces are going to do. And I think it's one of the reasons why it's useful for General Petraeus to give that kind of a comprehensive report.
Q We're now at the point where we can have an incredibly bloody weekend in terms of troop count, and you can say, you know what, that's really not the most effective, accurate thing to point to.
MR. SNOW: Well, apparently, success doesn't work for you. So I don't know --
Q That's not what I'm saying at all.
MR. SNOW: It is, it is -- I mean, of course -- look --
Q Tony, I think we're looking for metrics. You're saying, Jim or whoever, is not looking at the good news. And I think we're all looking in part at the good news, but we're looking at other metrics, as well.
MR. SNOW: Well, of course.
Q And if you're going to say now, look, we have all this success, then what are you going to say different in September?
MR. SNOW: Well, again, let's take a look at what happens. Let me give you a couple of things --
Q Tony, I think we're looking for metrics. You're saying, Jim or whoever, is not looking at the good news. And I think we're all looking in part at the good news, but we're looking at other metrics, as well.Well, that's what we were doing. It's been a bloody mess, so do they KIA troops count?
MR. SNOW: Well, of course.
Q And if you're going to say now, look, we have all this success, then what are you going to say different in September?
MR. SNOW: Well, again, let's take a look at what happens. Let me give you a couple of things --
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